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guigui lechat the no fock given 10	Posted - 2017.03.17 12:47:33 - [1] - Quote bot for distribution: accept mission, set destination, set destination, undock, warp to, warp , .. dock, get reward, undock. That's NOT difficult to implement, you just need to sniff packets.
guigui lechat the no fock given 10	Posted - 2017.03.17 14:30:48 - [2] - Quote I'm just saying : making a distribution bot does not require much work and so the ratio LP/h/invested time is interesting, even though you think the sole LP/hour is bad. When you farm, the ratio you consider is your ISK/played_hour ; when you create bot, the ratio is max_bot*ISK/bot_hour/dev_hour, because even if the sole ISK/hour is ten time worse, if you can launch 10 times more bots using it and it requires less dev time it's worth it. you can easily script clicks on a window, the only issue is to know WHEN and WITCH click to perform - and for that you may need packet sniffing. I 'm not saying there are bots and I know of them. I'm saying on every game I know of, people made bots (I did on some - but most of the time I only create statistical anilysis tools), and every time there is a tedious activity, bots are welcome. This in no way implies bots are making changes to the market, but if you whole point is "we need proof of bots to listen to you", then you lack a lot of wisedom/knowledge.
guigui lechat the no fock given 10	Posted - 2017.03.22 11:46:27 - [3] - Quote Andrew Indy wrote: guigui lechat wrote: "we need proof of bots to listen to you", then you lack a lot of wisedom/knowledge. But can you really Ask CCP to do something on a random players theory? How many times have people said that the drop rate of X has change because their last X sites drop very little or something along those lines. The issues I have with the OP is that he keeps on calling people stupid for having an opinion other than his and its not so much that he can't provide proof of bots but that he has no proof of any kind. Maybe check all LP items and look at their history since ascension, if the vast majority of items (ones farm able in HS) have come down a lot since then, then maybe he is right. I'm not asking CCP anything, just stating that bots are a thing, and there are good reasons to make distribution bots. Your issues with the OP are not my concern. However I totally understand them. Anize Oramara wrote: So this is a very valid concern IF we knew for a fact CCP wasn't blocking multiple alpha log ins from the same machine/IP. However as you can see by a simple and quick test, CCP does indeed block the ability to log in multiple alpha accounts or even a single alpha account if you have an Omega account running. AFAIK https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5fldj4/is_it_allowed_to_skillup_an_alpha_on_separate/ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6707136 https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/213811425-Alpha-Clones-and-Omega-Clone-lapsing-Quick-Facts people are able to connect the same IP. So you just need ONE VPN (so your main doesn't get banned too when the banhammer falls)
guigui lechat the no fock given 15	Posted - 2017.03.26 21:10:09 - [4] - Quote You're making a circular logic. Many things cannot be proven false or true, ESPECIALLY in mathematics which people consider to be the most logic science. So your sentence about what can be asserted without proof is false ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems ). I don't think the alpha bots are a problem at the moment, it does not mean I could learn from his point.
guigui lechat the no fock given 19	Posted - 2017.03.29 15:49:07 - [5] - Quote Anize Oramara wrote: But all we get when we ask for proof is name calling and personal attacks. Still, it's amusing to watch the flailing. That Owen Levanth wrote: Well, you just don't have the knowledge required. I bet you didn't even know T1 industrials like the Mammoth are the "top end" of industrial ships in EVE. But don't worry, I didn't know either! I guess I have to sell my transportships now and replace them with Mammoths. is not what I call asking for proof. Sure you made points. But other people behave like spoiled children and thougth that making rude sarcasm was the most clever way to discuss with someone they don't agree with. I totally understand that OP is calling you names, when you also use sarcasm - though I do not agree with this.
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 03:06:32 - [6] - Quote I always knew that Eve Online has nothing to do with mathematical, logical or evidenced !! #CCP
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 15:11:06 - [7] - Quote NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: guigui lechat wrote: I always knew that Eve Online has nothing to do with mathematical, logical or evidenced !! #CCP Having read the moronic drivel of the OP, you're dam right, especially with the logical or evidenced part. You clowns really didn't think to say what it is you are even on about? What is it exactly that you are too stupid to understand? The intelligent people in this thread seem to have no issue understanding the problem as explained. Evidence? Mathematics? LOL! Is common sense really such a challenge for you? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, dumbass, and it is practically common sense that botting level 4 couerier missions is worthwhile You must be quite the idiot if you expect anyone to take your baseless criticism seriously in light of all this. please stop the insults. This is boring and makes your argument unreadable.
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 15:43:13 - [8] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Miner calm down! please stop your insults too, unless of course you enjoy his insults.
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 15:48:10 - [9] - Quote The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do. You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting.
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 15:53:39 - [10] - Quote NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Jacques d'Orleans wrote: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Do you realize you haven't made a single valid point,and that you haven't made a single post that did not contain insults? That coming from you? Oh, the irony! Other people in the the thread have agreed with me. You aren't even capable of forming an argument or even explain what it is exactly that you don't agree with. Don't you have something better to do than troll by acting like a total moron? please, nobody agreed totally with you. the goal of a discussion is to find the agreement and sisagreement points. For example I only agree there may be a problem ; however I don't think it exists. But just thinking is in no way an argument so I don't expose it as one. I also agree that L4 bot is easy to do and so can be profitable more easily than mining bot.

guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 15:55:55 - [11] - Quote Jacques d'Orleans wrote: guigui lechat wrote: The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do. You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting. You're new to the meta game, are you? Also obligatory: Do you have a mining permit? There is a spring action sale, one mining permit is just 10 M isk, valid for one year. A real bargain if you aks me. go away, this is for people discuting, not for children blabering. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything. When you'll be over 12 you may understand life but for now you still need your parents to think for you. So don't post unless they correct your post.
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.30 16:10:57 - [12] - Quote NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: What part did you disagree with? I guess it depends on what you view as problematic. Do you believe that if someone is able to cheat and earn LP effortlessly, while others do it legit, that it is unfair to those players who earn LP legit, and thus becomes problematic for those players? Can they lower the value of LP for some players without crashing the market? If you say yes to these questions, then i think you do totally agree with me. It may not be a significant problem for a lot of people, but it is still a problem for some people. Most of the commenters seem to be thinking of things only pertaining their own perspective, rather than how this effects others. I consider your point of view plausible but I do not think it bo be the reality. I do not "disagree", I just have a different opinion(but no argument to share as I said) and everybody sees things with his own perspective, when discussing we need to share our perspectives. Without insults and without looking down on people.
guigui lechat the no fock given 23	Posted - 2017.03.31 12:09:16 - [13] - Quote Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote: After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: GÇ£Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..GÇ¥ made me laugh :) "Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape"

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